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The Bible and...: Part 5b: Theology
Saturday, April 20, 2024 by Dr. James W. Walraven

Calvinists vs. Arminians. One is hard pressed to think of a theological debate filled with more bitterness and rancor. The debate has raged for centuries; libraries are filled with books advocating either the one side or the other.

No matter the amount of ink already spilled, the arguments continue on, unabated. Each side claims their view is the only true biblical view. With them, one must agree!

Sometime back, I reviewed a book “None Dare Call It Heresy,” a book whose author insisted that if anyone even more or less thought the word “Calvin” in a non-negative light, that person was preaching a false gospel, was cursed, and could expect to spend all eternity in Hell. Even if a person agreed with just one point of what the author labeled as “Calvinism” that person was eternal toast.

Not to be outdone, it doesn’t take a lengthy internet search to find Calvinists doing the exact same thing. If someone even dares to think the word “Arminius” in a non-negative light, one is preaching a false gospel, is an outright heretic, predestined (double pre-destined?*) to eternal Hell.

If that is what the World sees as examples of being “Christian”, it gives them yet one more reason to reject it outright (regardless of whether one thinks they were predestined to do that or not).

So, what’s the problem? The problem is that there are Scriptures that don’t fit neatly into either system, Scriptures that have to somehow be shoehorned in, forced to fit. There are numerous Scriptures that state that God is absolutely sovereign (1 Timothy 6:15); that God establishes all authority (Romans 13:1). See also especially Psalm 2.

There are others that indicate people have to make the choice to believe. John 6:28–9 (NAU): “Therefore they said to Him, ‘What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?’ Jesus answered and said to them, ‘This is athe work of God, that you believe in Him whom He bhas sent.’” The onus is on the people to believe.

A standard answer often given by Calvinists is John 6:44, regarding God’s choice and sovereignty over salvation: “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day” (NAU). Unless God draws the person, that person won’t be saved.

But then there’s John 12:32 where Jesus says: “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself” (NAU). Jesus is referencing his soon to be realized crucifixion.

On the one hand God the Father must draw each person for salvation to occur, on the other hand Jesus is drawing everyone. How does that work? The Bible is clear that not everyone will be saved, that most will choose the broad path that leads to their destruction, that few find and enter the narrow gate that leads to life.

Skeptics will shout: “See, the Bible is full of contradictions!” To which we’d reply, “Not at all!” What we’re seeing is the opposite sides of the same coin. God is both absolutely sovereign and people must accept God’s gift of salvation. That is one reason the Calvinist/Arminian debate has never been, and arguably never will be, “solved”. There is just too much that doesn’t fit cleanly within either the one system or the other.

We’ve previously discussed how we don’t like unresolved tension, that we want definite answers, even when the Bible doesn’t give them. What we’ve just been discussing tends to cause unresolved tension. Both the Arminians and the Calvinists seek to provide definitive answers to help us resolve that discomfort. The trouble is that however helpful some of their arguments might be, neither side can provide an ultimate final answer.

What ends up happening is that the theological system ends up taking precident over Scripture, All Scripture must be explained in terms of the system, regardlenss of whether any given passage cleanly fits or not.

In the next post, we’ll turn to a second problematic example: prophecy and end-times.

 

*A few extreme hyper-Calvinists (by no means all or even the majority) insist that God created the damned as damned, and then predestined the damned to Hell (double predestination).

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Dr. James W. Walraven

10/12/2022

Kirkland: "Calvinism: None Dare Call It Heresy," Intro. Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

10/3/2022

What Is Heresy? Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/26/2022

Instrument Update
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/22/2022

Starting to Write a New Double-Bass Concerto. Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/9/2022

Starting to Write A New Double-Bass Concerto
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/25/2022

The New Cultural Norm: Hatred
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/21/2022

An Unexpected Journey, Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/14/2022

An Unexpected Journey
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/8/2022

A Change in Direction
Dr. James W. Walraven

3/24/2022

An Unexpected Lenten Journey
Dr. James W. Walraven

3/7/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 10
Dr. James W. Walraven

3/2/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 9
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/28/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 8
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/25/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 7
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/23/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 6
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/21/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 5
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/18/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 4
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/16/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/14/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/11/2022

Love versus Holiness, or Love and Holiness? Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/9/2022

Thoughts for 2022: How Will We Treat Those Who Persecute Us?
Dr. James W. Walraven

1/10/2022

Thoughts for 2022: What Will We Focus On?
Dr. James W. Walraven

1/7/2022

Thoughts for 2022: What Will We Think About?
Dr. James W. Walraven

1/5/2022

Thoughts for 2022: Will We Live in the Truth?
Dr. James W. Walraven

12/31/2021

Thoughts for 2022: How Will We Regard Others?
Dr. James W. Walraven

12/28/2021

Merry Christmas!
Dr. James W. Walraven

12/22/2021

Second Sunday of Advent: Preparing for Christ's Return
Dr. James W. Walraven

12/4/2021

Thanksgiving and the Eucharist
Dr. James W. Walraven

11/24/2021

Misconstruing the Scriptures
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/27/2021

Nature Videos on Social Media
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/13/2021

Hebrews 12: The Importance of Discipline, Part 5
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/8/2021

Hebrews 12: The Importance of Discipline, Part 4
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/6/2021

Hebrews 12; The Importance of Discipline, Part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/3/2021

Hebrews 12: The Importance of Discipline, Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/1/2021

Hebrews 12: The Importance of Discipline, Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/30/2021

Prophetic Weeping, Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/27/2021

Prophetic Weeping, Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/25/2021

Covid Vaccines (again)
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/24/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 3E
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/23/2021

Have We Ever Been SIdetracked?
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/21/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 3D
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/20/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 3C
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/18/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 3B
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/16/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 3A
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/13/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 2F
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/11/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 2E
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/9/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 2D
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/6/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 2C
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/4/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 2B
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/2/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 2A
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/30/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 1B
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/28/2021

False Gospels and False Bibles, Part 1A
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/26/2021

Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing?
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/12/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 4: Reflections
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/9/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 3: Good News! God Remains in Control
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/7/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 2C: Local Subversive Infiltration
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/5/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 2B: Local Subversive Infiltration
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/2/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 2A: Local Subversive Infiltration
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/30/2021

The Importance of Forgiving Others
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/28/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 1D: Apostate Hierarchies
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/28/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 1C: Apostate Hierarchies
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/25/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 1B: Apostate Hierarchies
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/23/2021

Something to Ponder: A Couple Thoughts on Critical Race Theory
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/22/2021

Destroying Bible-Believing Churches, Part 1A: Apostate Hierarchies
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/9/2021

Foolish Shepherds? Zechariah 11: A Warning to the SBC?
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/7/2021

Where Do I Go From Here?
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/24/2021

Good Friday
Dr. James W. Walraven

4/2/2021

The NCAA Tournament, ORU, and Cancel Culture
Dr. James W. Walraven

3/27/2021

RZIM: Final Report on Ravi Zacharias, Part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

3/5/2021

RZIM: Final Report on Ravi Zacharias, Part 2b
Dr. James W. Walraven

3/3/2021

RZIM: Final Report on Ravi Zacharias, Part 2a
Dr. James W. Walraven

3/1/2021

Some Personal Musings: The "Equality" Act
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/27/2021

RZIM: Final Report on Ravi Zacharias, Part 1c
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/26/2021

RZIM: Final Report on Ravi Zacharias, Part 1b
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/24/2021

RZIM: Final Report on Ravi Zacharias, Part 1a
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/23/2021

Towards a One World Philosophy? Part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/16/2021

Towards a One World Philosophy? Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

2/8/2021

Towards a One-World Philosophy? Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

1/21/2021

Our Security in Christ
Dr. James W. Walraven

1/16/2021

The Washington D.C. Riots and the Good Samaritan
Dr. James W. Walraven

1/14/2021

The Worship of Celebrites
Dr. James W. Walraven

1/12/2021

What Do We Make of 2020?
Dr. James W. Walraven

12/31/2020

The Miracle of Christmas, part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

12/16/2020

The Miracle of Christmas, part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

12/14/2020

The Miracle of Christmas
Dr. James W. Walraven

12/9/2020

On Disproving God's Existence? Part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

11/20/2020

On Disproving God's Existence? Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

11/18/2020

On Disproving God's Existence? Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

11/16/2020

Jesus's Virgin Birth
Dr. James W. Walraven

11/10/2020

A Growing Apostasy? Part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

11/3/2020

A Growing Apostasy? Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

11/2/2020

Fear, Mistrust, and the Election
Dr. James W. Walraven

10/19/2020

A Growing Apostasy?
Dr. James W. Walraven

10/6/2020

Personal Reflections: "One in Christ"
Dr. James W. Walraven

10/5/2020

Dying Well
Dr. James W. Walraven

10/3/2020

Spiritual Warfare
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/16/2020

Foot Washing
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/9/2020

You Matter!
Dr. James W. Walraven

9/8/2020

The Culture of “No,” part 7: No Law, No Authority
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/28/2020

The Culture of “No,” part 6: No Knowledge, section C
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/19/2020

The Culture of “No,” Part 5: No Knowledge, section B
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/8/2020

The Culture of “No,” Part 4: No Knowledge
Dr. James W. Walraven

8/6/2020

The Culture of “No,” Part 3: No Meaning
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/31/2020

What Is Sin?
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/27/2020

The Culture of “No,” part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/25/2020

The Culture of “No,” part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/23/2020

The Future of the Evangelical Church
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/22/2020

The Progressive Church, part 5
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/21/2020

The Progressive Church, part 4
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/20/2020

The Progressive Church, Part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/17/2020

The Progressive Church, Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/8/2020

The Progressive Church, Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

7/3/2020

Juneteenth
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/20/2020

Lawlessness
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/8/2020

Living in a Culture of Safety
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/5/2020

How Do We Interpret the Bible?
Dr. James W. Walraven

6/4/2020

On Lying, Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/23/2020

On Lying, Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/22/2020

A Nation's Tale, Part 7
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/16/2020

A Nation's Tale, Part 6
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/14/2020

A Nation's Tale, Part 5
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/12/2020

A Nation's Tale, Part 4
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/10/2020

A Nation's Tale, Part 3
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/7/2020

A Nation's Tale, Part 2
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/4/2020

A Nation's Tale, Part 1
Dr. James W. Walraven

5/1/2020